Congressional Record: December 12, 2001 (House)
Page H9246-H9254

                            FISCAL YEAR 2002

  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, by direction of the Committee on Rules, I call 
up House Resolution 312 and ask for its immediate consideration.
  The Clerk read the resolution, as follows:

                              H. Res. 312

       Resolved, That upon adoption of this resolution it shall be 
     in order to consider the conference report to accompany the 
     bill (H.R. 2883) to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 
     2002 for intelligence and intelligence-related activities of 
     the United States Government, the Community Management 
     Account, and the Central Intelligence Agency Retirement and 
     Disability System, and for other purposes. All points of 
     order against the conference report and against its 
     consideration are waived.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss) is 
recognized for 1 hour.
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, for the purpose of debate only, I yield the 
customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings), 
pending which I yield myself such time as I may consume. During 
consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose 
of debate only.
  Mr. Speaker, H. Res. 312 is a standard rule that allows the House to 
consider the conference report to accompany H.R. 2883, the Intelligence 
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2002. The rule waives all points of 
order against the consideration of the conference report. The rule is 
the normal rule we have for conference reports.
  The intelligence authorization bill is a critical piece of 
legislation in any average year, but this year, given the recent 
September 11 tragedies and the war we are waging against terrorism as 
we speak, it is absolutely essential that we get this bill to the 
President's desk without any further delay. As Members are aware, the 
National Security Act requires that Congress authorize each dollar the 
U.S. spends on intelligence and intelligence-related activities. We are 
unique in that respect. The war on terrorism means that there has

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been a fundamental shift in intelligence and defense priorities, as the 
President has stated, and these authorities must be reflected in law.
  While we will discuss the conference report in greater detail during 
the general debate, I would like to highlight a few of the ways that 
the legislation will tackle both critical counterterrorism challenges 
as well as the long-term problems facing America's intelligence 
  The conference report increases funding for foreign language 
capability. Obviously this is a critical requirement in the fight 
against terrorism because it is all over the world and we need the 
language capability. It certainly is also a basic, core competency for 
our intelligence community. The Permanent Select Committee on 
Intelligence has pushed this issue for several years and we are going 
to continue to push it in the future until we get better results.
  Another core intelligence capability this conference report bolsters 
is human intelligence. In addition to providing the necessary resources 
for this, the conference report includes a version of the House 
language directing the Director of Central Intelligence to repeal the 
so-called Deutch 1995 guidelines on the recruitment of human sources. 
These guidelines may have been issued with the best of intentions, and 
no doubt were, but in practice, they have had a chilling effect on our 
ability to gain vital intelligence from sources with access to unsavory 
characters, particularly such as terrorists.
  Finally, this conference report includes a House provision requiring 
an accounting from the Director of Central Intelligence concerning 
whether and to what extent the intelligence community has implemented 
the recommendations of the Bremer, the Hart-Rudman and the Gilmore 
commissions. All of those were reports on terrorism and the 
vulnerabilities and threats to our security and the security of 
Americans at home and abroad. As Members are aware, these independent 
commissions examined the United States' measures for prevention of and 
preparedness for terrorist attacks. All of the provisions are 
essentially components to the health of the intelligence community and 
our country.
  I urge the House to adopt the rule and embrace the conference report.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Mr. HASTINGS of Florida. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I 
may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank my good friend and colleague from 
Florida for yielding me the time. It is a pleasure for me to serve with 
Chairman Goss on both the Committee on Rules and the Permanent Select 
Committee on Intelligence.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of this rule, providing for the 
consideration of H.R. 2883, the Intelligence Authorization Act for 
Fiscal Year 2002. H. Res. 252 is a modified open rule requiring that 
amendments be preprinted in the Congressional Record. However, Mr. 
Speaker, the preprinting requirement has been the accepted practice for 
a number of years because of the sensitive nature of much of the bill 
and the need to protect its classified documents. The bill is not 
controversial and was reported from the Permanent Select Committee on 
Intelligence by a unanimous vote.
  Members who wish to do so, and I urge Members to pay attention to 
this, can go to the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Office 
to examine the classified schedule of authorizations for the programs 
and activities of the intelligence and intelligence-related activities 
of the national intelligence program, which includes the Central 
Intelligence Agency as well as the foreign intelligence and 
counterintelligence programs within, among others, the Department of 
Defense, the National Security Agency, the Departments of State, 
Treasury and Energy and the FBI.

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  Also included in the classified documents are the authorizations for 
the Tactical Intelligence and Related Activities and Joint Military 
Intelligence Program of the Department of Defense. Members can go to 
the committee and review those matters.
  Mr. Speaker, last week the House considered and passed the 
authorization for the Department of Defense for fiscal year 2002. The 
intelligence bill we consider today is another critical component in 
our national defense. Today, more than ever, we need to be vigilant 
about the myriad threats to our national security.
  Mr. Speaker, while there will be debate on some worthy amendments, 
this is a noncontroversial bill providing authorizations for important 
national security programs. I urge my colleagues to support this rule 
and to support the underlying bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time.
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of my time, and I 
move the previous question on the resolution.
  The previous question was ordered.
  The resolution was agreed to.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, pursuant to House Resolution 312 just passed, 
I call up the conference report on the bill (H.R. 2883) to authorize 
appropriations for fiscal year 2002 for intelligence and intelligence-
related activities of the United States Government, the Community 
Management Account, and the Central Intelligence Agency Retirement and 
Disability System, and for other purposes.
  The Clerk read the title of the bill.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Simpson). Pursuant to rule XXII, the 
conference report is considered having been read.
  (For conference report and statement, see proceedings of the House of 
December 6, 2001, at page H9057).
  The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss) and 
the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi) each will control 30 
  The Chair recognizes the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss).
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support today of the conference report 
before us. Before I begin the main part of my statement, let me first 
acknowledge and thank the Members of the House Permanent Select 
Committee on Intelligence, each and every one of them, but especially 
our ranking member, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi), for 
hard work, dedication, showing up and doing the business that needed to 
be done, and doing it intelligently and with a good deal of 
  I also want to specifically thank the committee staff on both sides 
of the aisle for their untiring efforts that have gotten us to this 
point. I very much appreciate the way they work in a nonpartisan way.
  Obviously, I need to thank the Senate Permanent Select Committee on 
Intelligence Members and their staffs as well, especially under the 
steady hand of the chairman, my good friend, Senator Graham, and the 
vice chairman, my good friend, Senator Shelby. We appreciate the 
efforts they have put in.
  Mr. Speaker, by definition a conference is a time when the two bodies 
come together to settle whatever differences there may be between the 
bills, often including resolution of differences of opinion and 
viewpoints on how money is needed, how it should be spent, what laws 
should be changed, what direction the administration should go, those 
kinds of things. But in this case, we are talking about protecting our 
Nation's security at a time when this is very much in the forefront of 
everybody's attention.
  Ironically, Mr. Speaker, this conference found very, very few 
differences of opinion between the two bodies, and, frankly, between 
the points of view on either side of the aisle, on these and other 
areas. When it comes to national security, we seem to be pulling 
together very strongly in the area of intelligence.
  Let me briefly review some of the areas of agreement. First, 
intelligence is our first line of defense; and it must be treated as 
such, especially on our war on terrorism, one of the new transnational 
threats we are, regrettably, beginning to understand a lot better. 
Although it may get lost in the continuous CNN optic of the coverage 
going on in Afghanistan and the Pentagon releases of bombs exploding 
and troops on the move, none of the activity that is actually happening 
would be possible without good intelligence.
  Second, there are four key areas where the administration and 
Congress must immediately address themselves

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if we are to properly protect the country's rights and freedoms. They 
are revitalizing the National Security Agency and the signals 
intelligence system, upon which we have had such wonderful production 
and service over the years and now needs upgrading; correcting 
deficiencies in conducting and collecting human intelligence, a matter 
which we all understand very well, something we cannot do without; 
providing a more appropriate balance between intelligence collection 
and analysis to better achieve a global awareness capability, something 
we have been talking about for years; and rebuilding a robust research 
and development program across the intelligence communities.
  We have been so lucky and so well helped by the innovation and 
creativity that our country produces and the applications we have been 
able to use in the intelligence community over the last 50 years, and 
we need to have more of that in the days ahead.
  There are other areas of concern besides these four, but these are 
the most critical for the types of threats that we face now and that we 
are going to face, we think, over the next few years; and they are 
certainly the areas that we are in full agreement with the other body 
  Thirdly, the intelligence community has got to be better focused on 
strategic intelligence and better positioned to be able to get access 
to so-called plans and intentions, that is, what is going on in the 
minds of the evil-doers, the mischief makers, in order to prevent the 
crisis. We do not want to be just great at sweeping up after the 
tragedy; we want to stop the tragedy before it happens. In short, we 
must have an intelligence community culture that is less risk averse.
  My last example is that the conferees believe that any effort to 
invest in and expand intelligence capabilities, and such efforts 
clearly must be made, will only be marginally successful if it does not 
also include provision for a more appropriate management structure for 
the intelligence community. We are talking here basic architecture and 
the appropriate management overlay to make the system work.
  Today's intelligence structure is insufficient for today's and 
tomorrow's challenges. We know it, and we have to get about the job of 
dealing with that; and I am pleased that the administration is taking 
up that challenge. We look forward to working with the President and 
his administration on these issues. They simply cannot wait.
  Mr. Speaker, this does not mean that there were not differences 
between the bodies during our conference. There were. I am happy to 
report that there were few and that they were worked out successfully 
and the result is a conference report that was approved by a vast 
bipartisan majority of the conferees. There are a couple of areas where 
I would have liked things to have turned out differently personally, 
but that did not happen; and in the spirit of compromise, I am happy to 
support what I think is a very good conference report which will serve 
this country well. Again, I commend my colleagues for working in that 
  Mr. Speaker, on Monday we paused to remember the 3-month anniversary 
of the horrible and tragic attacks on America by the terrorists, those 
the President has referred to as the "evil-doers." Also on Monday we 
laid to rest the first combat casualty of our war on terrorism, Mike 
  The fact that the first casualty was a CIA officer speaks to the fact 
that intelligence is in fact in the lead in this war. There is no 
argument about that. But some have questioned how our Nation got into 
this position, how these attacks could have occurred in the first 
place; and frankly, there is no easy answer to that question, as there 
are many facets.
  For one thing, terrorists took advantage of the basic rights and 
freedoms that we so openly and charitably give to our citizens and 
visitors alike in this country. They abused those privileges.
  Another point is that communications between the entities and 
agencies assigned the responsibility for protecting our borders was 
simply not adequate. We know that.
  But there is also certainly an intelligence story here. Put simply, 
we do not have an intelligence community that is properly structured to 
collect the types of intelligence that would have prevented such 
attacks had the information been available. In part, this is of our own 
doing as a country and a Congress.
  After the Cold War, a decision was made to "build down" 
intelligence. Many thought that we were at peace, perhaps this would be 
part of the peace dividend. We did not have a single major threat that 
people really could identify, and we could afford to spend intelligence 
monies elsewhere. Congress acted. Money was shifted, indeed.
  Beginning in the 104th Congress, the Intelligence Committees of 
Congress on both sides, both Houses and both sides of the aisle, 
recognized the risks of the looming threats of transnational issues and 
year after year attempted to put more investment into intelligence. 
However, the administration's efforts were more focused on domestic 
issues and had little interest in that kind of investment at that time. 
Consequently, we ended up with a much-reduced intelligence capability, 
less access around the world, and a risk-averse environment, and, 
frankly, a growing threat.

  This is not to say that those brave men and women in the rank and 
file of the intelligence community were not doing their jobs. They were 
playing the hand they were dealt, and they were doing very well under 
the circumstances. This is also not to say that Congress was not aware 
of the risks. We certainly were, and we talked about them a lot.
  Recently, I had occasion to review the intelligence bills and 
conference reports since the 104th Congress. In the 104th Congress, we 
noted that there was a growing threat and a growing vulnerability to 
terrorism. We sent that message. We talked about the need to share 
information better between intelligence and law enforcement. Remember, 
this is back in the 104th Congress. We talked about the need to invest 
more robustly in intelligence resources.
  Then in the 105th Congress we noted that the intelligence community 
must "keep a watchful eye on the areas that are likely to be 
tomorrow's crises." I would point out that we mentioned the 
transnational threats.
  We also mentioned that our national security was being affected by a 
broader set of issues that have not been identified with our global 
interests. We needed to rebuild our intelligence capabilities, and we 
expressed concern over the growing apathy toward national security and 
  Again these issues were raised in the 106th Congress, where we stated 
that there was a growing possibility that a rogue nation or group would 
acquire the ability to attack U.S. interests with nuclear, biological, 
chemical, or some other weapon of mass destruction.
  Mr. Speaker, I am not pointing these facts out to say "we told you 
so." Far from it. The point is that we must engage with this 
administration now, and we must put significant effort into quickly 
rebuilding our intelligence capabilities. We cannot wait. The events of 
September 11, sadly, stand as a reminder of what happens when we let 
our intelligence guard down.
  Mr. Speaker, this conference report is a good start toward rebuilding 
what the Nation needs. But it is only a start. It is a snapshot in 
time. Many of us refer to it as the first year of a 5-year plan. We 
look forward to working with the administration to secure our national 
freedom. We look forward to working in a nonpartisan way to do this 
with the passage of this conference report. I am fully supportive of 
the report. I encourage its passage.
  Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of my time.
  Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Our chairman has very well explained how we got to the point we are 
at today. I want to commend him for the leadership he has provided to 
the committee, not only at the conference meeting but throughout what 
has turned out to be a very challenging year. I thank the chairman.
  The House version of the intelligence authorization bill came to the 
floor a little over 3 weeks after the terrorist attacks on New York 
City, Washington, and Pennsylvania. Active and retired intelligence 
community personnel were killed in the World Trade Center and at the 
  In the weeks since, the United States has begun to strike back at 
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were involved in the September attacks, and at those who support them. 
On Monday, the first combat fatality of the struggle against terrorism 
in Afghanistan was buried at Arlington National Cemetery. Mike Spann 
was a CIA officer. We eulogized him yesterday on this floor with the 
suspension vote in the presence of his family: his wife, Shannon; his 
parents, and his children.
  Timely and reliable intelligence, as we know, is crucial to the 
successful conclusion of this campaign, and it is already clear that 
intelligence officers will be deeply involved, at home and in the 
field, in the difficult and dangerous job of ensuring that our 
policymakers and military commanders have the information on which they 
will increasingly depend.
  The emergency supplemental appropriations bill passed in the wake of 
the September attacks provided a large amount of additional resources 
for intelligence programs and activities. This conference report 
provides more; substantially more, than was provided last year, and 
significantly more than was requested by the President.
  Our chairman has gone over some of the priorities in the bill, and I 
want to associate myself with those. That would be human intelligence 
capabilities that he talked about and TPED, the tasking, processing, 
exploitation and dissemination of intelligence. It is very important 
for us to put more resources there. Another priority for us in the bill 
was the investment in advanced research and development projects 
necessary to keep pace with changes in technology, and, of course, the 
technology necessary to improve the process of collecting and 
processing intelligence.
  Some of these funds that are in this bill will continue improvements 
as the chairman emphasized, in our human intelligence capabilities, to 
ensure that case officers receive the kind of training they need, 
particularly in foreign languages, to enable them to do their jobs 

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  Some of these funds will make investments in the kinds of systems 
required if agencies like the National Security Agency and the National 
Reconnaissance Office are to keep pace with rapid technological change. 
The modernization of NSA remains a top priority of the committee and 
measurable progress is expected in the coming year. As steadfast as the 
committee has been in advocating more spending on intelligence, it must 
now be equally engaged in conducting the kind of oversight necessary to 
make certain that these additional funds are spent efficiently on 
programs that will really make a difference, not only in the current 
effort against terrorism, but on the demands of an uncertain future as 
  Although I am satisfied with the disposition made by the conferees on 
most of the items which separated the two bodies, I was disappointed 
with the resolution of the provision in the House bill which would have 
established an independent commission to review the Nation's security 
posture immediately preceding September 11. Our colleagues in the other 
body insisted that the two intelligence committees could undertake an 
inquiry into the readiness of the intelligence community, and other 
committees of jurisdiction could examine the other elements of the 
executive branch.
  The issue was never whether the committees had the resources to do 
this job, it was whether it made sense for them to do it. I am 
concerned that an independent review would have had credibility with 
the American people that a congressional review, no matter how 
professionally done, will not.
  The House version of the bill, when it left our committee stated, Mr. 
Speaker, "The committee believes that the Commission will only be 
successful if it is seen to be truly independent of any preconceived 
notions about the effectiveness of the activities of the departments 
and agencies it will review. Appointing members with a reputation for 
challenging conventional wisdom, wide perspective, bold and innovative 
thought, and broad experience in dealing with complex problems will 
contribute directly to instilling the Commission with an independence 
of spirit which will enhance the credibility of its work."
  It goes on further. I want to put these words on the record. This 
body chose to modify the Commission and change its nature, but when we 
got to the conference, the Commission was eliminated all together. I 
want to put on the record the spirit of independence that I hoped the 
review would have.
  This is not about fingerpointing or assigning blame; it really is 
more about understanding whatever government shortcomings may have 
contributed to the events of September 11. An independent inquiry will 
one day be commissioned, I am certain, although perhaps without the 
congressional input that we tried to do in our committee.
  We need to know if there were gaps and where they were, again, not to 
assess blame, but to be sure that they are addressed. Our constituents 
must have confidence that an assessment of future needs is based on 
solid judgments about past performance. This will be especially 
important if we are to consider changing the structure of the 
intelligence community, and that is the challenge our chairman and our 
committee will have in the next year. Some of these reforms may be 
called for by President Bush, as is his right.
  On another important issue the conference report more faithfully 
reflects the position of the House, and that was a compromise that the 
gentleman from Nebraska (Mr. Bereuter) took the lead in shaping and I 
was pleased to support. It was necessary because in 1995, in response 
to concerns that there was insufficient CIA headquarters involvement in 
decisions to recruit as assets individuals with poor records of 
respecting human rights or the law, guidelines were issued to ensure 
that senior officials were aware of and approved, certain recruitments. 
The intent of these guidelines was to protect relatively junior 
officers in the field from later charges that they acted unilaterally, 
and unwisely, in entering into relationships with certain individuals. 
Despite repeated assurances to the committee from high-level 
intelligence officials of two administrations that the guidelines had 
not prevented the recruitment of a single, identifiable, worthwhile 
asset, concerns were raised that the bureaucratic process through which 
the guidelines were administered was so time consuming that it provided 
a disincentive to case officers. This controversy has obscured the fact 
that encouraging a potential asset on a hard target, like a terrorist 
cell, to betray his or her country or cause is tremendously time 
consuming, difficult and dangerous. That we have had uneven success 
against these targets is more a reflection of those facts than it is 
the fault, in my view, of any guidelines.
  Nevertheless, to make clear that Congress wants the recruitment 
process to be as aggressive as possible given the totality of the 
circumstances involved, the House approved a provision in the 
committee's bill which would have required a rescission of the existing 
guidelines and their replacement with new guidelines which achieve 
balance that "recognized concerns about egregious human rights 
behavior, but provides the much needed flexibility to seize upon 
opportunities as they present themselves." The House made clear that 
in striking this balance, "clearly there is a certain class of 
individuals who, because of their unreliability, instability, or nature 
of past misconduct, should be avoided." Again, the gentleman from 
Nebraska (Mr. Bereuter) led the way on this compromise that was in the 
House bill.
  Although the DCI chose to rescind and reissue the guidelines before 
the legislative process was complete, the heart of the language which I 
was pleased to work with the gentleman from Nebraska on was retained in 
conference. The conferees want the current, more streamlined guidelines 
reviewed again to make certain that they provide appropriate 
encouragement to case officers to do their jobs well. As the statement 
of managers makes clear, however, whatever the results of that review, 
any guidelines issued "must balance concerns about human rights 
behavior and law-breaking" with the efforts to provide flexibility to 
take advantage of opportunities to gather information. That balance is 
the proper interpretation of the phrase "more appropriately weigh and 
incentivize risk" which appears in

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clause (2) of section 403 of the conference report.
  Mr. Speaker, our President, when he came to the House on September 
14, three days after the tragedy, said that we will bring the 
perpetrators of that tragedy to justice, or we will bring justice to 
them, but justice will be done. We want to be sure that our 
intelligence capabilities help the President reach that goal, a goal 
that we all share. Hopefully, this bill will take us closer to that.
  I believe the conference agreement will contribute significantly to 
meeting the intelligence needs of the Nation, and I urge its adoption. 
I again associate myself with many of the remarks made by my chairman, 
particularly those about sharing of information by the FBI. Once again, 
I want to extend the sympathies of my constituents and I know all of 
our colleagues, to the family of Mike Spann and the Special Forces 
soldiers, the Green Berets who lost their lives. If I may, I would like 
to put their names in the Record also: Master Sergeant Jefferson Davis; 
Staff Sergeant Brian Cody Prosser; and Sergeant First Class Daniel 
Petithory. God bless them. God bless America.
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 6 minutes to the 
distinguished gentleman from Nebraska (Mr. Bereuter), the vice chairman 
of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and the chairman of 
the Subcommittee on Intelligence Policy and National Security.
  (Mr. BEREUTER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
  Mr. BEREUTER. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding me this 
  Mr. Speaker, this Member congratulates and commends the exemplary 
bipartisan effort of the chairman, the distinguished gentleman from 
Florida (Mr. Goss), and his counterpart in the other body, the 
distinguished senior Senator from Florida, Senator Graham. I also want 
to extend my congratulations and appreciation to the distinguished 
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi), for continuing to give us the 
leadership for a bipartisan conference report.
  I rise, of course, in strong support of the conference report. Under 
the leadership of the people I have just mentioned, the legislative 
branch continues to move rapidly to address a number of long-standing 
deficiencies in our intelligence collection and analysis programs. The 
chairman's comments about the high quality work and dedication of the 
committee's first-rate staff are exactly on the mark, and I express my 
personal appreciation for their expertise, dedication, and hard work 
throughout the year.
  Mr. Speaker, it is important to note that the Select Permanent 
Committee on Intelligence has not suddenly awakened to the very real 
funding deficiencies and program matter inadequacies of the 
intelligence agencies. For years, the intelligence committee has worked 
to reorient and enhance the effectiveness of the intelligence community 
and, of course, that has not received much public attention. But now, 
more than ever before, the American people understand through tragedy 
that our intelligence and counterterrorism programs are extremely 
important. As the distinguished chairman, the gentleman from Florida 
(Mr. Goss) has frequently noted, "The message is not new; the audience 
for the message is now new."
  I want to express my appreciation for the fact that he has gone back 
a few minutes ago to previous Congresses, back at least to the 104th 
Congress, to give some indication that the committee for some period of 
time has recognized and tried to address these transnational problems 
that are relatively new in the national focus.
  Responsibly addressing the Nation's intelligence requirements now 
clearly has become a recognized national priority across the country in 
the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attack. One result is a 
natural tendency to seek a simple solution, a quick fix. Certainly the 
conference report provides much-needed additional funds to improve our 
intelligence capabilities and to wage the war against terrorism, but at 
a more fundamental level, H.R. 2883 continues to aim even more 
aggressively to respond to serious underlying policy inadequacies and 
structural problems. I know all members of the committee would agree 
our work is not done, that we are looking forward to taking on this 
task during the next year.
  In some cases, these are problems that have been years in the making 
and will take a number of years to reverse. For example, the conference 
report continues support for additional capacity in human intelligence 
collection. Human intelligence, or HUMINT, is the placement of highly-
trained, language-capable officers in positions where they can acquire 
information vital to our national interests. Our HUMINT capacity was 
substantially downgraded in the years following the end of the Cold 
War. Also, our human intelligence collection efforts was understandably 
directed during the Cold War period at collection of the Soviet Union 
and its client states. Not in Africa, Latin America, the Middle East, 
South Asia, and especially not in the problems of transnational 
terrorism and narcotics trafficking. The conference report continues 
this body's efforts at addressing these deficiencies and the new 
  Addressing another reason for the HUMINT inadequacies, this Member is 
particularly gratified that the conferees agreed to reverse the 1995 
limitations on asset recruitment, and I especially appreciate the 
cooperation and assistance of the gentlewoman from California (Ms. 
Pelosi) for the committee in working with me, and the chairman. These 
restrictions, called "the Deutsch guidelines," were promulgated as a 
means to limit our association with unsavory individuals, with human 
rights or other criminal problems. While the concerns underlying these 
guidelines were understandable, resulting from revelations about the 
problems of the 1970s and early 1980s, the reality is that the Deutsch 
guidelines have had a chilling effect on the recruitment of people who 
can actually and efficiently penetrate the inner circles of terrorist 
networks and narcotics rings. The recruitment of assets with unique 
knowledge or access to these terrorists and drug cartels is the key to 
successful HUMINT against these targets. The regrettable, real-world 
reality is that especially in the crucial battle against terrorism, we 
must allow our foreign officers to recruit assets that sometimes are 
rather unsavory characters. To win the war on terrorism, we have to end 
the cycle of risk aversion by our intelligence operatives and their 
superiors in headquarters. Recruiting Boy Scouts will not give us the 
penetration and intelligence we need.
  In many cases, there will be difficult decisions to make, but the 
U.S. has professionals in the intelligence and law enforcement fields 
who can and must make those decisions. This conference report makes 
clear that our foreign intelligence personnel must recruit as agents 
those who possess the detailed and timely information which the United 
States needs to defend its people and its interests. Admittedly, there 
are risks with such recruited agents, but if the risks are 
realistically weighed against the benefits, the enhanced chances of 
operational success, this body must not rashly second-guess those 
decisions or fail to replace the Deutsch guidelines where they are 
detrimental to effective intelligence-gathering.
  Mr. Speaker, this Member urges adoption of the conference report on 
the intelligence authorization for fiscal year 2002.
  Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2\1/2\ minutes to the 
distinguished gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Bishop), who is the ranking 
member on the Subcommittee on Technical and Tactical Intelligence of 
the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
  Mr. BISHOP. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentlewoman for yielding me this 
  As the ranking member of the Subcommittee on Technical and Tactical 
Intelligence, I rise in support of this conference report. It is a good 
work product. I want to thank and to congratulate the chairman and the 
ranking member, and especially our staff, who worked so hard and who 
did an extraordinary job to make sure that this package will serve to 
improve our country's ability to provide the best real-time information 
possible to our war-fighters and our policymakers, so as to protect 
Americans wherever they may be situated in the world.

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  The intelligence systems and activities that are funded by this 
conference report are a prominent and indispensable element of the war 
on terrorism. In the short time between September 11 and the time when 
the committee marked up the authorization bill, this committee worked 
extremely hard in a completely nonpartisan manner to develop proposals 
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  Most of these proposals are reflected in this conference report. The 
human element in this war on terrorism is fundamental, and it is an 
appropriate focus of our attention. But American technological prowess 
will greatly determine how effective our soldiers and intelligence 
officers will be, how many casualties our forces suffer, and how many 
innocent lives will be lost or protected.
  The precision of our air campaign in Afghanistan is wondrous, and we 
must always remember that it depends as much on precise intelligence as 
on the guidance system of the missiles or the bombs. Developing these 
technical intelligence capabilities is expensive, and it is often 
difficult. Sometimes we make mistakes; but usually we, the government, 
and American industry get it right in the end. I am gratified to be 
part of this process.
  Mr. Speaker, this bill is a good start on correcting the problems in 
the intelligence community, but there is clearly much more that must be 
done. I speak, I believe, for all of my colleagues on the committee in 
again commending the chairman and our ranking member for their 
dedication, and also the gentleman from Delaware (Mr. Castle), my own 
counterpart, in assuring that our intelligence organizations can 
protect Americans against the new menace.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge adoption of this report.
  Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 4 minutes to the 
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Harman), a distinguished member of our 
committee and the ranking member on the Subcommittee on Terrorism and 
Homeland Security.
  Ms. HARMAN. Mr. Speaker, I thank my colleague for yielding time to 
me, and I join in saluting American heroes who have given their lives 
in the fight against terrorism in the aftermath of September 11.
  Mr. Speaker, I commend the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss) and the 
ranking member, the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi), for their 
leadership in bringing this conference report to the House.
  I also commend the hard work of our committee colleagues and staff, 
whose bipartisan approach attempts to ensure that this Nation has the 
best intelligence capabilities.
  I love serving on this committee and as ranking member of the 
Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security. It is a high honor, 
and it honors the constituents of California's 36th Congressional 
District, who design and build most of our Nation's intelligence 
  Yesterday, Mr. Speaker, President Bush spoke to 1,900 cadets at the 
Citadel and laid out three priorities for national defense: first, 
speeding the transformation of the military to face 21st century 
threats; second, protecting against proliferation of weapons of mass 
destruction; and third, strengthening our intelligence capability. All 
these goals are important, and I strongly support them.
  This bill goes a long way toward accomplishing the third: this bill 
provides increased funding for human, technical, and tactical 
counterterrorist activities; it rescinds the CIA guidelines that may 
have restricted recruitment of some people with critical information on 
terrorist groups; and it requires the issuance of new guidelines to 
rebalance the recruitment process.
  Also, it requires the administration to explain why it has not 
implemented the recommendations of three national commissions that 
studied terrorism and homeland security. I served on one of those 
commissions, the congressionally mandated Commission on Terrorism. All 
three produced good ideas that are still good today.
  Our committee has served notice that it will do even more to push 
restructuring of the intelligence community next year; but meanwhile, 
this restructuring cannot happen in a vacuum. I believe the lesson 
learned from 9-11 is that good people had poor tools, and that our 
homeland security effort needs a leader with adequate power to conduct 
a unified threat assessment, develop a national plan, and compel 
agencies at all levels to share information and coordinate seamlessly 
to prevent or respond to acts of terrorism.
  Governor Tom Ridge has this top job. Ridge is charged with 
coordinating all Federal efforts related to homeland security with 
those of State and local governments. The President's executive order 
also makes Ridge the chief communicator of homeland security policy.
  Two months have passed since Tom Ridge started as director of the 
Office of Homeland Security; but in my view, he is losing power every 
day. He is a capable man with the skills and resume needed; but without 
the authority to influence Federal budgets, Ridge cannot enforce the 
changes that this committee has required and that this country needs. A 
bipartisan bill, H.R. 3026, would give him that authority.
  Finally, Mr. Speaker, as I stated in a letter to the President on 
Monday, I continue to be concerned that the release of the new bin 
Laden videotape could prove damaging to American security. Those who do 
not believe bin Laden is guilty will not be persuaded by this tape. To 
me, the benefit of showing the tape is outweighed by the risks that 
secret messages, signals, or facial expressions of bin Laden or in the 
background are embedded in the tape. I would have preferred that its 
distribution be limited to those with a need to know, possibly 
including foreign leaders.
  But Mr. Speaker, returning to this conference report, it gives the 
right tools to good people in our intelligence community. I thank them 
for working 24-7 before and after September 11 to protect this country 
from terrorist attacks.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge strong bipartisan support for this bill.
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 3 minutes to the 
distinguished gentleman from Delaware (Mr. Castle), who is also the 
chairman of our Subcommittee on Technical and Tactical Intelligence.
  Mr. CASTLE. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to 
  Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the conference report to 
accompany H.R. 2883, the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 
2002. Before I get to my statement, I wish to acknowledge the superb 
leadership, and I mean this very sincerely, of our chairman, the 
gentleman from Florida (Mr. Goss), and our ranking member, the 
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi), and the Senate Intelligence 
Committee's chairman, Senator Graham, and the vice chairman, Senator 
Shelby. Their support and guidance brought the Permanent Select 
Committee on Intelligence through a very difficult year, culminating in 
this fine piece of legislation. I think it is fitting to thank them for 
all of their efforts in support of our Nation.
  Mr. Speaker, today we are voting on a bill that authorizes spending 
for the Nation's intelligence organizations, operations, and the brave 
men and women, such as our fallen CIA officer Mike Spann, who are 
stationed all around the globe collecting and analyzing information to 
provide our true first line of defense.
  Tragically, the events of September 11 have made crystal clear what 
many of us in the Congress have been saying for sometime, that we need 
to significantly improve our intelligence-gathering, analysis, and 
dissemination capabilities.
  I do not for one moment blame the attacks in New York, Washington, 
and Pennsylvania on an intelligence failure. Indeed, that blame can 
only be assigned to radical fanatics who would see America fall. But I 
do assign some blame on our collective lack of attention for 
maintaining a robust, properly resourced, and forward-leaning 
intelligence community that is not unduly restricted from collecting 
information on foreign threats to our country.
  The authorization levels in this bill were determined by the 
conference committee as appropriate for beginning to rebuild our 
Nation's intelligence defenses. In the wake of 9-11, our intelligence 
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 their professionals have been asked to do more than ever before, to 
provide more detailed information on an elusive but omnipresent enemy 
that directly threatens our country and our citizens.
  Indeed, President Bush, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld, Attorney 
General Ashcroft, and Director of Homeland Security Governor Ridge have 
all made statements about the increased need for and reliance upon our 
intelligence service in the wake of terrorist attacks.
  There is no question in my mind that intelligence is now, more than 
ever, a critical function of national security worthy of this body's 
full funding support. It is in that spirit, Mr. Speaker, that I urge my 
House colleagues to support this conference report. We elected Members 
of Congress have no greater duty to the people of the United States of 
America than to protect their safety, their freedoms, and their way of 
  To do that in a world populated with any number of terrorists who 
have no remorse for loss of American lives and property we must go on 
the offensive. We must discover and take action against the people who 
would do us harm.
  That requires knowledge. Before the FBI can arrest a single al Qaeda 
member, the Bureau must know who and where that person is. Before a B-
52 bomber can effectively drop a single bomb, its crew must be given 
the information on what target to attack. Before we can better defend 
against an intended terrorist attack, we need forewarning of the attack 
location and timing. All of these require intelligence, intelligence 
for national defense. There is no higher priority.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to support this measure.
  Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the 
distinguished gentleman from California (Mr. Condit), the ranking 
member on the Subcommittee on Intelligence Policy and National 
  (Mr. Condit asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
  Mr. CONDIT. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of the conference 
committee today. This is a very powerful tool in arming our 
intelligence agency in a campaign against terrorism.
  Though I am disappointed the conference report does not include an 
outside commission to assess our national security readiness since 
September 11, it is still a very good conference report. It does 
increase human intelligence, and it improves foreign language skills 
and translation capabilities.
  We face an extraordinary challenge now to collect information and 
preserve our national security, and we must focus now on the security 
of our homeland. We cannot sit back and think about the future in the 
out years; we must address security needs now. This conference report 
does just that.
  Yesterday, we passed a resolution honoring Johnny Spann, the first 
American to die in combat in Afghanistan. We pledged to continue to 
support our men and women, to ensure the safety to all of our citizens. 
This conference report makes good on that pledge.
  Mr. Speaker, I would like to commend and congratulate the chairman of 
the committee, as well as the ranking member, the gentlewoman from 
California (Ms. Pelosi), for this product, because I think it is a 
product that helps build a better and safer Nation. I congratulate them 
and thank them for their leadership.
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I am very pleased to yield 3 minutes to the 
distinguished gentleman from Nevada (Mr. Gibbons), the chairman of our 
Subcommittee on Human Intelligence, Analysis, and Counterintelligence, 
our subcommittee on hacking. I will let him explain what that stands 
  Mr. GIBBONS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman for yielding time to 
me. I thank the chairman of the full committee and the ranking member, 
the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi), for bringing before this 
House what I feel is probably one of the best intelligence 
authorization conference report bills we have had in a long time. As a 
result, I do stand here in strong support of the conference report.
  Mr. Speaker, since September 11, all Americans have witnessed, I 
believe, our intelligence community working at its best. America, 
unfortunately, did witness its first loss, our first combat loss of an 
American hero in our war on terrorism, CIA agent Johnny Mike Spann. Now 
we must provide the resources needed to combat terrorism at the most 
basic level for intelligence.
  This, Mr. Speaker, is a good bill. It provides significant resources 
to the intelligence community which, during the last decade, went 
underfunded, understaffed, and underappreciated.
  The 1990s were a risk-averse period during which the bullies of the 
world began to get the idea that the United States had gone soft and no 
longer had the will to defend American lives and American interests. 
The intelligence community often was not performing aggressively 
enough, though this was by no means the fault of the dedicated men and 
women who constitute the intelligence agencies' rank and file. They are 
now doing a terrific job, a wonderful job of catch-up, and they deserve 
the best support that we can give them.
  Regarding today's needs, we are providing logistical and technical 
resources for a worldwide campaign to root out terrorism. Our 
intelligence officers are working on the ground in Afghanistan, as the 
American public is now very much aware, sadly aware, with the news of 
our fallen CIA hero.
  What the American public will probably never know is that American 
intelligence officers are working around the clock worldwide to 
neutralize terrorist cells and otherwise diminish the possibility of 
future attacks on innocent American citizens.
  As for the needs and future needs, this bill provides resources for 
greater foreign language expertise, increased specialized training, 
increased analytical expertise, to include measures to restore the 
intelligence community's ability to provide worldwide analytical 
  This administration and this Congress are acutely aware of the need 
for a strong intelligence capability. We on the Permanent Select 
Committee on Intelligence have done our utmost to give the intelligence 
agencies what they need to do their job.
  Mr. Speaker, I want to ask all my colleagues to support this bill, 
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  Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 3\1/2\ minutes to the 
very distinguished gentleman from Indiana (Mr. Roemer), a member of the 
Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
  (Mr. ROEMER asked and was given permission to revise and extend his 
  Mr. ROEMER. Mr. Speaker, I join in the accolades and the compliments 
to our chairman and to our ranking member, who have brought the 
committee together in a bipartisan way. When we do have differences in 
the committee, they are settled in an inclusive way and in an 
intelligent manner that I think benefits the bipartisan nature of the 
final product. They both do this institution well by their working 
  I also want to thank the staff. The staff has been through an 
exceedingly difficult year, working in an environment in the United 
States Capitol that has often been target or a suspected target, has 
been evacuated a number of times. It is a very difficult environment; 
and they do an excellent job creating an excellent product, and we are 
grateful for their hard work.
  The intelligence budget and the reforms that are needed are now 
confronted with three different challenges. Certainly, we have the 
September 11 challenge, the attack on our country. We have the 
challenge of changing the culture in the intelligence community over 
the last 10 years from one that is targeted in an old-fashioned way, 
guards, guns and gates, to now trying to go after transnational 
targets, tents, technology, terrorism; and that is a slow and sometimes 
difficult push into the future.
  We also have the difficult challenge of latching up the intelligence 
with the military capability as we are doing now in Afghanistan. Our 
intelligence personnel, our intelligence equipment become more and more 
important in the future.
  How do we address that in this bill? We could do it with a quick fix, 
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change into the future. We have mostly settled on the latter, platform 
for change, constructive change; and I think that has been a good, 
healthy approach. I do, however, wish that we would have taken steps 
for bold change in two or three areas, like, as our ranking member 
mentioned, an independent commission to look at what happened on 
September 11. We have the same people always looking at the same 
problems, and we do not have enough new eyes on old problems, giving us 
new solutions.
  We need to work more on the information and collaboration in our 
intelligence community, and we need to look at the cultural changes. 
Moving to transnational targets, rather that than being comfortable 
going at just other countries' intelligence capability, we need to look 
at going after biological and chemical weapons and nuclear weapon 
capabilities of terrorist groups.
  We have accomplished a lot, Mr. Speaker. We not only have more money 
for language and fluency capabilities; we have specifically said that 
there is congressional interest in this area and the intelligence 
communities cannot move this money away from language and fluency 
  We have improved human intelligence in this bill; and as I said 
before, we are improving the latching up of the military and the 
intelligence capabilities.
  Finally, our hearts and our prayers go out to Johnny Mike Spann and 
to Shannon Spann for the sacrifices that they and their family have 
made and the three children who Shannon now raises with the help of 
that family.
  Support this bipartisan conference report, and we look forward to 
bolder changes next year.
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to yield 4 minutes to the 
distinguished gentleman from Georgia (Mr. Chambliss), who is the 
chairman of our effort on counter terrorist efforts.
  Mr. CHAMBLISS. Mr. Speaker, I thank the gentleman from Florida (Mr. 
Goss) for yielding me the time, and I particularly thank him for his 
strong leadership, along with the gentlewoman from California (Ms. 
Pelosi) for bringing this bill to the floor in such great fashion and 
to the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Harman), the ranking member of 
my committee, for all who have worked in a very bipartisan way to 
ensure that we are improving our intelligence community. And to the 
staff, they have been under such great pressure. The staff on both 
sides of the aisle have worked close together to ensure that we are 
going to win this battle against terrorism.
  Mr. Speaker, I do rise in support of the conference report for H.R. 
2883. Yesterday, America paused to remember the terrorist acts that 
shook our Nation and the many acts of heroism and courage that 
followed. In the intervening 3 months, America has been fighting back 
and we are winning.
  As the President has said on numerous occasions, this is a war that 
will extend far beyond the conventional battlefield in Afghanistan; and 
it is a war that will take years, not days, weeks or months. It is a 
war that will be fought on American soil and on the soil of our friends 
and enemies alike. It will be fought in the electronic air waves and 
the bazaars of the Mideast and north Africa, on the streets of London, 
Paris, Rome and Bangkok, right across the globe.
  Conventional weapons will not be enough to safeguard our public from 
the long-term threat from terrorism. Smart bombs and Special Forces can 
only be used against targets that have first been identified as posing 
a threat.
  Intelligence is the weapon most capable of identifying terrorists, 
their plans and intentions, operating methods, whereabouts and targets 
of terrorist attack. When 9-11 happened, the world changed but the 
threat from the terrorists stayed the same. What changed most of all 
was the recognition that intelligence is critical to our Nation's 
defense against terror. In fact, a whole new constituency for 
intelligence has arisen from the ashes of 9-11, and this constituency 
was far too long in coming.
  As chairman of the Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security, I 
am here to tell the American people that the Intelligence Authorization 
Act lays the groundwork for fixing many of the problems that have 
plagued our intelligence professionals. We have sought to address 
systemic problems within the intelligence community and to begin to 
correct some of the funding deficiencies of years past that have 
crippled our ability to achieve true global coverage in intelligence 
collection and analysis.
  This conference report provides the resources and direction necessary 
to overhaul the intelligence community language training programs and 
to begin to build a workforce that can operate effectively in the 
languages and environments used by terrorists. In addition, the report 
addresses in a more decisive fashion than ever before the chronic 
shortfall in language exploitation capabilities across the community.
  The 9-11 attacks also highlighted shortcomings in the way in which 
information is shared and analyzed. This conference report provides 
significant new funding to establish additional joint terrorism task 
forces across the country, and it enables accelerated construction of 
analytic capability in the law enforcement, military and intelligence 
spheres that will aid in untangling the complex of webs of terrorist 
financing, support, movement, training, and operations, both through 
enhanced resources and cooperation.
  This analytic capability, as a result of the report under 
consideration, will be applied more rigorously and in a more focused 
manner to raw threat reporting on terrorism matters. Such analysis, 
coupled with direction that the intelligence community establish a 
reasonable threshold for disseminating raw threat reporting, should 
vastly improve our ability to make sense of the many scraps of 
intelligence, real and fabricated, that are collected on a daily basis 
on terrorist threat activities.
  Mr. Speaker, I urge the adoption of this conference report and ask 
that it proceed.
  Ms. PELOSI. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  I believe that we have completed our roster of Members who wish to 
speak on the Democratic side, and I would like to just say in a few 
closing remarks how appreciative we are to our distinguished chairman 
for the bipartisan nature of our proceedings, to extend to my 
Republican colleagues, again, thanks for their cooperation.
  I want to acknowledge the good work of the gentleman from Georgia 
(Mr. Bishop), the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Harman), the 
gentleman from California (Mr. Condit), the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. 
Roemer), the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings), the gentleman from 
Texas (Mr. Reyes), the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. Boswell), the gentleman 
from Minnesota (Mr. Peterson), the Democratic members of the committee 
for their attention to the important work of the Permanent Select 
Committee on Intelligence.
  It is like signing up when you join the committee. It is very 
demanding and Members on both sides have made a strong commitment of 
time, enthusiasm, and dedication to these important issues so that we 
can have the force protection that is one of the main goals of 
intelligence and that we can have mission success on whatever we set 
out to do.
  We talked about human intelligence at the beginning. The chairman 
mentioned it as a priority in his remarks and I did in mine. We want to 
commend all of the people who work in the intelligence community, in 
the human intelligence side, and otherwise, for their courage and their 
dedication. I also want to note the commitment that our committee has 
to bringing diversity to our human intelligence.
  There are people in our country who understand the language, the 
cultures, the opportunities in other countries and in other cultures 
that would serve us well in achieving our mission success and we must 
draw upon them. Our HUMINT has to look different as we go into the 
  So we recognize and express gratitude to all of them, particularly 
Mike Spann and the others who lost their lives. We also recognize those 
who risk their lives every day for freedom in America and to root out 
terrorism wherever it exists.
  I want to commend especially, though, the staff of Permanent Select 
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not really call it the Republican side. We really have a bipartisan 
approach to this. But he is the chief of staff for the Permanent Select 
Committee on Intelligence. I want to acknowledge the Democratic side 
staff: Mike Sheehy, Wyndee Parker, Beth Larson, Carolyn Bartholomew, 
Chris Healey for her good work on our issues, Kirk McConnell, Bob 
Emmett, and Ilene Romack, who work so hard for us.
  I want to commend our chairman for his leadership. It was interesting 
to work with the Senate on this bill. So I commend the chairman, the 
new Democratic chairman, Senator Graham, and Senator Shelby for their 
cooperation as well. With that, Mr. Speaker, I urge our colleagues to 
support the bill.
  Mr. Speaker, I have no further requests for time, and I yield back 
the balance of my time.
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I yield myself such time as I may consume.
  Mr. Speaker, I have no further speakers and I just wanted to finish 
this with some thoughts about how grateful I am and how privileged I 
am, indeed honored, to serve with such wonderful members. That is a 
select committee. And I mean it. We have heard today from the chairman 
and the ranking members of the four subcommittee we now have because we 
have so much business on the committee. But the others who did not 
speak, the gentleman from New York (Mr. Boehlert), the gentleman from 
Illinois (Mr. LaHood), the gentleman from California (Mr. Cunningham), 
the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. Hoekstra), the gentleman from North 
Carolina (Mr. Burr), the gentleman from Minnesota (Mr. Peterson), the 
gentleman from Texas (Mr. Reyes), the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. 
Boswell), the gentleman from Florida (Mr. Hastings), have all 
contributed mightily to this.
  It is obviously a wonderful select committee to have and be able to 
work with and we are backed up with the kind of staff that we have as 
the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi) has said, with Mike Sheehy 
and Tim Sample and Chris Barton, our top staff keeping us on the track. 
I think we are able to do our job well. And, of course, a big part of 
that is the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi), who has been 
outstanding with her time, her energy, her attention and her leadership 
when she has one or two other things to do, I understand, in her 
portfolio of responsibilities as well.
  It is a very good situation for us. I think the people of the United 
States of America sometimes wonder what the job of Permanent Select 
Committee on Intelligence is and need to be reassured that today we are 
talking about advocacy for sure. That is part of our job. We need to 
make sure that our folks out there have the tools they need to do the 
job, to do national security.
  But the other side of our job is oversight. We do it very diligently 
and dutifully. And that is to make sure that all of these awesome 
capabilities are used in a way that is entirely lawful and within 
keeping of character of the goals and wishes and the standards of the 
people of the United States of America.
  We do not have a 1-800 number to flash across the bottom of the 
screen to say if you have a problem. But we are there as your oversight 
committee, and if there are problems, we are responsible for dealing 
with them. And I think we take that seriously, very seriously indeed.
  Having said all of that, I think that we have with all of this 
wonderful good will, and responding to the tasks before us, come up 
with a good piece of legislation which is urgently needed. I see my 
friend, the gentleman from Washington (Mr. Dicks), sitting over there. 
A lot of us have taken credit and heaped praise back and forth on the 
work that has been done. A lot of the success we are enjoying today 
that you are seeing on CNN is coming from the hard work of the people 
who went before us on the oversight committees. And I take my hat off 
to those people because they too understood the need.
  I am very sorry this year my friend Julian Dixon is not with us to be 
able to see some of the results of some of his hard work, and I know I 
am joined on that from my colleagues on the other side. Fortunately, 
there are always people to come along to fill shoes, and the 
gentlewoman from California (Ms. Pelosi) has done that so well. Having 
said that, I urge adoption of this particular conference report.
  Mr. SIMMONS. Mr. Speaker, I rise in strong support of this conference 
report and commend the conferees and the professional staff for their 
hard work.
  Specifically, I wanted to express my appreciation for the inclusion 
of the language I offered as an amendment that requires that the 
Central Intelligence Agency assume 100 percent of the cost of personal 
liability insurance for certain CIA employees involved in counter-
terrorism activities.
  Mr. Speaker, for 10 years I served with the Central Intelligence 
Agency. I spent five years overseas engaged in intelligence collection, 
counter-intelligence and, in some cases, counter-terrorism.
  The work was difficult and dangerous. This fact has been reaffirmed 
by the terrible death of CIA operations officer, Johnny Micheal Spann, 
who was the first American to die in combat in Afghanistan in the fight 
against terrorism last week. But at no time did I doubt that my 
government would protect me from any personal liability if I 
encountered a lawsuit as a consequence of my professional duties.
  Today, I understand that CIA officers engaged in counter-terrorism 
activities are virtually required to have personal liability insurance; 
but the CIA pays only half of the premium. What incentive does a CIA 
Case Officer have to do the job if he or she is subject to liability 
lawsuits? Why would they take any risks if the government were 
unwilling to cover the cost of liability?
  I understand that I served in a different time. But I did have the 
backing of my government--100 percent. It is time to give this 
assurance back to our Case Officers, many of whom are on the front 
lines of the war on terrorism.
  This is not an original idea. In fact, it was a recommendation of the 
Report of the National Commission on Terrorism, titled "Countering the 
Changing Threat of International Terrorism" submitted to Congress in 
June of 2000.
  The report states, "The risk of personal liability arising from 
actions taken in an official capacity discourages law enforcement and 
intelligence personnel from taking bold actions to combat terrorism."
  Following the tragic events of September 11th, it is apparent that we 
must do better in our counter-terrorism effort. The least that we can 
do is guarantee that any CIA officer participating in the war on 
terrorism will have the full backing of the federal government. They 
deserve no less.
  Passage of this conference report will provide this full backing. It 
also maintains the authority of the Director of Central Intelligence to 
designate those CIA employees who qualify for this benefit.
  Again, I thank the Members and staff of the House and Senate 
Intelligence committees for their hard work on this legislation, and I 
urge my colleagues to support the conference report.
  Mr. GOSS. Mr. Speaker, I have no further requests for time, and I 
yield back the balance of my time.
  The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Simpson). Without objection, the 
previous question is ordered on the conference report.
  There was no objection.
  The conference report was agreed to.
  A motion to reconsider was laid on the table.