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TRANSCRIPT: STATE ADVISER SESTANOVICH ON NATO PARTNERS

(USIA Foreign Press Center briefing April 21) (3160)

Washington -- NATO's cooperation with its 25 partner countries --
grouped in the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council (EAPC) -- will rise
to a new level as a result of the April 23-25 NATO 50th Anniversary
Summit in Washington, according to State Department Special Adviser
Stephen Sestanovich.

Sestanovich, who advises on Newly Independent States affairs,
discussed the summit and NATO partner country participation at a USIA
Foreign Press Center briefing April 21.

This will be the first meeting at the summit level for the EAPC, which
was created in 1997. Sestanovich outlined a range of subjects on which
NATO and the partner countries are to strengthen their joint efforts,
from improved consultation on military operations in places such as
Bosnia to establishing a consortium of defense academies and security
studies institutes.

NATO leaders also will meet during the summit with leaders of Albania,
Macedonia, Slovenia, Romania and Bulgaria -- so-called frontline
states to the conflict in Kosovo -- plus Bosnia and Croatia.
Sestanovich said he expects this meeting to produce renewed commitment
to working during and beyond the crisis in Kosovo to make Southeastern
Europe "not a source of instability in Europe but part of the European
mainstream."

A third meeting at the summit will be that of the NATO-Ukraine
Commission, also created in 1997. This also will be the first meeting
of the group at the summit level. Sestanovich described Ukraine as
"one of the most active" of the NATO partners, and in particular noted
that Ukraine President Leonid Kuchma has issued proposals for a
resolution of the Kosovo conflict that are similar to proposals made
by NATO ministers recently in Brussels.

Kuchma, he pointed out, has suggested a neutral-country international
peacekeeping force in Kosovo. "Our judgment," said Sestanovich, "has
been that to be effective, such a force will have to have NATO at its
core.... Without the participation of NATO forces at the core of an
international peacekeeping contingent, it would be impossible, in our
judgment, to create the confidence among hundreds of thousands of
refugees who want to return to their homes."

While Russia has announced that it will not participate in the summit,
Sestanovich emphasized the continuing value of NATO-Russia
cooperation. "We regard Russia's place in the creation of a stable and
just European security order as a very important one," he said, and he
noted Secretary of State Albright's desire to work with Russia to
resolve the Kosovo conflict.

Following is a transcript of the Sestanovich briefing:

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FOREIGN PRESS CENTER BRIEFING WITH
AMB. STEPHEN SESTANOVICH, SPECIAL ADVISER
TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR THE NEWLY INDEPENDENT STATES

SUBECT: THE EURO-ATLANTIC PARTNERSHIP COUNCIL
MODERATOR: MARJORIE RANSOM
RONALD REAGAN INTERNATIONAL TRADE CENTER
WASHINGTON, D.C.
APRIL 21, 1999

AMBASSADOR SESTANOVICH: Let me just open with a few remarks about the
upcoming summit, and in particular the role of NATO partners and
members of the Partnership for Peace at this event.

As you know, the NATO summit will be an occasion not just to
commemorate 50 years of alliance cooperation but also an event at
which NATO will discuss its new missions, its new capabilities, its
new partnerships, and cement the mechanisms that will make all of
those successful. The conviction of the members of the alliance is
that NATO is not a Cold War relic but a continuing crucial element of
European security, the security of all its members and of its
partners.

The summit will involve, of course, a meeting of the heads of all of
the -- the leaders of all the members of the alliance in the North
Atlantic Council. But there are a series of other meetings which will
take place over the course of the weekend in the framework of the
summit that are of special interest to those states that are partners
of NATO. And I want to mention three of those which I think will be
helpful to you in looking ahead to the event and understanding its
broader purposes.

First, the meeting of the Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council itself. As
you know, this body was created in 1997 by the alliance and its
partners to provide a political framework for the military cooperation
that has been built up since 1994 under the Partnership for Peace.
This will be the first meeting of the Euro-Atlantic Partnership
Council at the summit level. Leaders, heads of government, heads of
state and their foreign ministers will participate in this session
late Sunday morning.

The broad aim of this meeting is to take NATO's cooperation with
partners to a new level. To this end, NATO and its partners have
already agreed in Brussels, at meetings of the EAPC at ambassadorial
levels, on a document titled "Partnership for the 21st Century." And
that document envisions expanded cooperation among partners, efforts
to create a more operational foundation for cooperation in the future.

Let me mention half a dozen elements of this expanded cooperation
among partners. The summit of the EAPC will endorse a number of
initiatives that will improve this cooperation. First, what's called
the political-military framework for NATO-led PFP operations. This is
an agreement that will make possible improved consultation and
decision-making between NATO and partners when they undertake joint
military operations. An example: Many partners are involved in the
work of SFOR in Bosnia.

Secondly, the partners have agreed with NATO on what's called the
operational capabilities concept. This goes beyond consultation and
decision-making to an effort to increase the ability of partners to
operate together.

Third, the partners have agreed on an expanded PFP planning and review
process. This is a parallel planning process to the one that NATO
itself works under, and partners will be able to join in this
coordinated planning and review process.

Fourth, partners have agreed on the establishment of new training
centers in Ukraine and other partner states.

Fifth, they have agreed to implement a simulation network for the
Partnership for Peace that will increase interoperability of the
military establishments of partners by providing computer-assisted
simulations for their operational planning.

And finally, NATO will establish a consortium under the Partnership
for Peace of defense academies and of security studies institutes.

These are the kinds of practical efforts that the members of the
Partnership for Peace have agreed on as effective mechanisms for
expanding their cooperation.

The second meeting that I want to call to your attention will also
take place this Sunday morning, and that is a meeting of what's called
the 19 plus 7. This weekend a lot of us will get used to NATO
expressions and terminology. Nineteen plus seven refers to the 19
members of the alliance plus five frontline states, so-called, to the
conflict in Kosovo, and those are Albania, Macedonia, Slovenia,
Romania and Bulgaria, plus Bosnia and Croatia, which are not members
of the Partnership for Peace but will be represented at this meeting.
This is a meeting, by the way, also at the head-of- state or
government level, with foreign ministers participating.

Our expectation is that this meeting will produce a renewed commitment
by the participants to working together during the current crisis in
Kosovo and beyond, in particular looking beyond the current crisis to
the modes of cooperation that will be necessary to make Southeastern
Europe, as the president said last week, not a source of instability
in Europe but part of the European mainstream. Right now, as the
Kosovo crisis demonstrates, this region shows once again some of the
instability that has, in the past, affected all states in Europe and
all members of the alliance.

A third meeting that I would call to your attention will take place on
Saturday afternoon, and that is a meeting of the NATO-Ukraine
Commission. This is the first meeting at the summit level of the
NATO-Ukraine Commission, which was also formed by the alliance and
Ukraine in 1997 at the Madrid summit. It was created as part of the
agreement between NATO and Ukraine on their distinctive partnership.

Ukraine has been one of the most active members of the Partnership for
Peace. As a sign of its interest, the government of Ukraine prepared a
program for cooperation with NATO through the year 2001 which issues
directives to all ministries of the Ukrainian government to enhance
their cooperation with NATO. I might note that at this meeting of the
NATO-Ukraine Commission, there will be, we expect, a designation of
Yavires (ph) in Ukraine as a Partnership for Peace training center.

With this overview of some of the very substantive meetings that will
occur over the course of the weekend, let me conclude, but with this
note. The conflict in Kosovo has made this summit more of a set of
working meetings than was anticipated when it was first being
scheduled and conceived. It's a working meeting because these
institutions and mechanisms that I have described are highly relevant
to addressing a real problem for European security.

This will not be a set of ceremonial meetings, wholly prescripted, in
which the participants affirm general principles and depart. This is a
set of meetings at which leaders will be addressing a current problem
and developing modes of cooperation to deal with it now and in the
future.

With that, let me take your questions. I believe I'm going to be in
your hands in recognizing questioners.

RANSOM: Okay.  Yes, Ivan.

Q: Ivan Lebedov (ph) with Russian news agency TASS. Foreign Minister
Ivanov today officially announced that Russia won't take part in the
summit and Euro-Atlantic Council meeting. Any comments about that? And
the follow-up question: What do you think should be done by NATO and
by Russia to try to bring back the relations on the formal level? And
what steps should be undertaken by both sides to try to overcome the
stalemate in the relations between Russia and NATO?

SESTANOVICH: We certainly regret this announcement. And, for reasons
that have been made clear by Secretary Albright and President Clinton,
we regard Russia's place in the creation of a stable and just European
security order as a very important one. Secretary Albright mentioned
that yesterday in her testimony in the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee. She and the other -- she and President Clinton and other
leaders in the summit will, I'm sure, reiterate that point again.

NATO and Russia created an effective framework for cooperation two
years ago, in 1997, the permanent joint council. That has been a very
useful forum for consultations on many issues, from military
infrastructure to theater missile defense to Kosovo, and in particular
Kosovo, which has been on the agenda on numerous occasions.

That framework for cooperation between Russia and NATO continues to
exist. And we hope that we can make good use of it in the future.
Secretary Albright has emphasized that one aim in our search for a
political solution to the Kosovo crisis is to work with Russia to find
areas of agreement that can be the basis for a real and durable
solution.

We continue our consultations with Russia on this issue, and that
reflects the same kind of common interest that led to the creation of
the NATO-Russia relationship in the first place. So I think that that
common interest will draw NATO and Russia together again, because both
have a large role to play in European security.

RANSOM: In the back.

Q: Nick Simeone, Voice of America. Two questions. First, what do you
say to a country like Macedonia, that wants entry to NATO immediately
but doesn't want anything to do with NATO's operations right now in
the Balkans? They've clearly distanced themselves, very sensitive to
what's going on, but they want immediate membership.

And second, what is your time line for admission of these new
countries into NATO? When do you envision them coming about? Who are
the next ones to be admitted, and what time will they be admitted?

SESTANOVICH: The question of new members for NATO will be under
discussion at the summit. I think there is broad agreement among the
members of the alliance that this is not a moment for issuing new
invitations, but there is also an agreement that NATO must maintain an
open door for new members in the future. At the summit, the members of
the alliance will adopt -- are likely to adopt a membership action
plan, which is a serious effort to help aspirants, countries that
desire membership, to become stronger candidates in the future.

As you know, the Madrid summit stated the open-door policy toward
membership in NATO; that is, that the alliance would be open to
countries that are interested in membership, able to take on its
responsibilities, and whose membership would serve the interests of
European security and stability. The formula that is adopted by the
alliance at this summit for future membership will apply to Macedonia
as well. But in the interim, NATO can cooperate with partners in very
fundamental and important ways that address their security needs.
That's the second part of an answer to a country like Macedonia.

Q: (Inaudible.) Could you elaborate? Why isn't it a good moment to
issue new invitations? And are these frontline countries, are they
going to get some security guarantees from NATO for their help in the
conflict with Yugoslavia?

SESTANOVICH: The judgment that the alliance makes as to whether this
is a good time is based on an assessment of the readiness of new
candidates to assume the responsibilities of membership. There will be
some assessment of their readiness and a forward look to some future
consideration of them.

As you know, NATO, in connection with the opening of its air campaign
in Yugoslavia, has stated its strong interest in the security of the
frontline states, who are, of course, most at risk in this conflict.
And on that basis, NATO has expanded its cooperation with them.

RANSOM: Yes, in back.  

Q: Jerry Branston (sp), Radio Free Europe. I'm interested in the
relationship with Ukraine, given that this is going to be a very
important part of the summit. Have the events in Kosovo not affected
this relationship at all? Are the original agenda plans going forward,
as earlier planned before the crisis?

SESTANOVICH: The agenda for the NATO-Ukraine Commission will cover a
great many practical questions of expanding the NATO- Ukraine
relationship. But as with all the meetings of this summit, it's
understandable that the participants will want to talk about Kosovo.
President Kuchma has issued a program from a set of proposals for the
resolution of the conflict. There are many points in common between
his plan and the position taken by the NATO ministers last week in
Brussels. And I'm sure that there will be further discussion of how to
bring our thinking and that of the Ukrainian government still closer.

In addition, Ukraine has been active diplomatically, has extended
humanitarian assistance to the refugees. So the crisis in Kosovo has
been the occasion for still broader consultation and cooperation
between NATO and Ukraine, and bilaterally between the members of the
alliance and the Ukrainian government.

Q: (Inaudible) -- Polish Press Agency. To follow up on this, what is
the biggest difference between Ukrainian plan and what NATO is asking
for? Is it that they want NATO to stop bombing first? And the second
question: You said that this is very much a working summit and that
you are going to address very concrete issues. Could you please
specify? I mean, you can say that Kosovo is such an issue. But
specifically, what can leaders discuss about Kosovo? For example, ways
to stop -- (inaudible) -- into Yugoslavia or some other issues like
that? Thank you.

SESTANOVICH: I don't want to prejudge the agenda, although I'm
confident that the issues you mention will come up in discussion. As
for President Kuchma's proposals, one issue that he addressed was the
need for an international peacekeeping force. And he suggested that be
composed of neutral countries.

Our judgment has been that to be effective, such a force will have to
have NATO at its core. And let me say why. It's not because NATO
aspires to dominate this region. It's because there's a practical
problem that has to be solved. And that practical problem is how to
ensure security and stability in Kosovo.

Without the participation of NATO forces at the core of an
international peacekeeping contingent, it would be impossible, in our
judgment, to create the confidence among hundreds of thousands of
refugees who want to return to their homes. It would be impossible to
provide for the demilitarization and disarmament of military units now
operating in Kosovo.

The discussion about such a force will, I'm sure, continue between our
government, between the NATO alliance and the government of Ukraine.
Our feeling is that the recognition that there has to be such an
international security force is a positive element of the Ukrainian
proposal. We differ on the importance of bringing NATO in that force
-- having NATO at its core.

Q: How far away are we from the next round of admissions for NATO? And
would Macedonia be in that group? Do you see that? Is Macedonia ready?
And if not, why not?

SESTANOVICH: I can't comment on that issue. I think that will have to
be discussed in the course of the summit. I think, as I said, our
judgment now is that this will not be the time for issuing new
invitations, but we want to work with countries that are interested in
membership to make them stronger candidates.

Q: Why is now not the time to talk about new members?

SESTANOVICH: I can only repeat the answer that I've already given you.
I think it speaks for itself.

RANSOM: Do we have any further questions?  If not -- yes, Ivan.

Q: Mr. Ambassador, is it correct that this membership action plan for
nine aspirant countries who are seeking membership in NATO will be
adopted at this summit? And if yes, what is the difference between
Membership Action Plan and individual programs of cooperation between
NATO and each of these countries?

SESTANOVICH: Programs of cooperation do not necessarily culminate in
membership. The Membership Action Plan is for countries that have
expressed an interest in becoming members and focuses on those areas
where an aspirant country needs to kind of improve its qualifications
for membership.

Q: Will it be adopted at the summit?

SESTANOVICH: Yes.

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