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09 February 1999

TRANSCRIPT: COHEN SAYS NATO RELIES ON STRENGTH OF U.S.-EUROPE TIES

(Says core NATO mission is "collective defense" of members) (2570)

Bonn -- Defense Secretary William Cohen says the strength of the NATO
alliance resides in the fact that the security of Europe and the
United States "are inseparable."

The alliance's core mission must continue to be the "collective
defense of its members," Cohen explained February 8 during a joint
press conference with German Minister of Defense Rudolf Scharping
here. However, he added, while the alliance "has no desire to become a
global security force, it must have the will and capability to protect
NATO nations from threats beyond its borders."

The United States "is always going to play its part in the
Transatlantic Alliance," Cohen said, but as Washington deals with "a
range of global security interests, particularly in Asia and the
Middle East, it is appropriate for Europe, which is growing more
confident and more cohesive, to take a greater role in helping to
resolve challenges to stability within Europe."

Just as the alliance has adapted "to deal with instability on its
periphery," the secretary said, "it must be able to respond to new
security threats that target Europe," including biological and
chemical weapons threats.

Asked about future NATO membership -- following the addition of new
members Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic -- Cohen said "no
country is excluded by geography, but there must be a very substantial
commitment and ability on their part to measure up to NATO
responsibilities."

Following their bilateral discussions, Cohen and Scharping answered
questions on a variety of subjects including Kosovo and Iraq.
Regarding the possibility of NATO ground forces being deployed to
Kosovo, Cohen said that if NATO makes that decision, the troops would
go in "to keep a peace, not to make a peace."

Asked about the relative calm experienced recently by coalition
aircraft enforcing the no-fly zones in northern and southern Iraq,
Cohen said what Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein "will do tomorrow or the
next day remains a matter of great speculation, but in the meantime,
we have to be prepared for any contingency." He noted that he would
not read the recent cessation of Iraq's confrontational tactics as an
indication of anything in particular, adding, "It could be that he has
decided that the destruction of those surface-to-air missiles and
radar systems that he had been deploying causes him to pull back for
fear that he might lose all of them."

Following is the February 8 transcript of Cohen and Scharping, as
issued by the Defense Department:

(begin transcript)

PRESS CONFERENCE
U.S. Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen and
German Minister of Defense Rudolf Scharping
Ministry of Defense
February 8, 1999
Bonn, Germany

MINISTER SCHARPING: We talked about some questions dealing with our
common interests between the Federal Republic and the United States.
And this includes the increasing challenge by mass means of
annihilation and proliferation including the carrier technology. This
includes also the development of the European (Security and) Defense
Identity within NATO, with an aim to strengthen NATO. This includes
the question of Kosovo and a possible, and as we think necessary,
buttressing of a peace agreement if it is achieved, and we don't have
any differences of opinion. That's good, and this is what we want to
have in the future, too, naturally.

SECRETARY COHEN: Thank you very much Minister Scharping. I would like
to publicly thank you for inviting me to this important visit.

We have had an opportunity to discuss some important issues this
morning as Minister Scharping has just indicated, but we had the
privilege of attending the Wehrkunde over the weekend in Munich. We
shared a platform in addressing a large group of people from not only
across the NATO membership, but also from China, Russia, Japan and
other countries. We discussed a number of our mutual security
interests in Munich and I want to say that I left Munich with a great
sense of optimism, not only about NATO but about Germany's role in
NATO.

The European nations working through NATO are taking a much more
active role in meeting this region's security challenges, and the
search for a solution to Kosovo and the crisis there is a prime
example of that level of cooperation, as Minister Scharping has just
mentioned.

We applaud this development. The security of Europe and the United
States are inseparable and that is the strength of NATO. The United
States is always going to play its part in the Transatlantic Alliance,
but as the United States deals with a range of global security
interests, particularly in Asia and the Middle East, it is appropriate
for Europe, which is growing more confident and more cohesive, to take
a greater role in helping to resolve challenges to stability within
Europe. Just as NATO has adapted to deal with instability on its
periphery, it must be able to respond to new security threats that
target Europe, and this includes the threat of biological and chemical
weapons.

NATO's central mission is always going to be, and must remain,
collective defense of its members. But at the same time, while the
Alliance has no desire to become a global security force, it must have
the will and the capability to protect NATO nations from threats
beyond its borders.

Minister Scharping has started an in-depth security review -- a very
important undertaking that will take place over the next couple of
years. I believe, and I am satisfied, that it will help Germany to
improve its capabilities and its ability to play a leading role
European security.

I'm also impressed by the breadth of this review and by Minister
Scharping's ambitious effort to meet and talk with troops of all ranks
as he surveys the state of Germany's military. Germany and the United
States are very strong partners for peace and stability in Europe. You
host our troops and you support our Marshall Center, where together we
are training leaders from the former Soviet States in how to run
militaries in democracies. This is very important work for the future
of Europe.

I particularly want to thank Minister Scharping; he has become a good
friend. I look to him for strong leadership and for calling on him on
issues that affect our mutual interests. We have known each other for
some time, going back to our first meetings at the Werhkunde
Conference; we stay in touch by phone, frequently. I look to him for
support when the United States is in need of that support and he has
always been very forthcoming. So I look forward to working with him at
the NATO Summit in Washington and to continuing our friendship well
into the future years. He is seen and recognized as a strong leader
and beyond his leadership, his friendship with me is something that I
truly treasure.

Thank you.

QUESTION: Mr. Minister, do you believe that the question of first use
of nuclear weapons should be debated within NATO and Mr. Secretary, do
you think that even a debate on the issue should be conducted?

MINISTER SCHARPING: (inaudible)a decision on this issue has been made
on a consensus basis within the Alliance, and the position of the
other partners in the Alliance is clear. I think there is no use in
continuing this debate.

SECRETARY COHEN:  I agree with Minister Scharping.

Q: How good are the chances that in Washington we will have a second
round of the enlargement to the east, and what are the chances of
Slovenia to be included in this round?

SECRETARY COHEN: We believe that the door to NATO membership must
always remain open, but as I have stated on many occasions, that open
door is at the very top of a very steep set of stairs. We want to make
sure that all countries who seek NATO membership are fully able to
measure up to the responsibilities of contributing to the capabilities
of collective defense and so, as was stated during the discussion in
Madrid, this is not a social club. This is a military alliance; those
countries who seek membership must be willing and able to contribute
to the collective security and not simply be consumers. And so the
door will continue to remain open. We think that there must be some
time to absorb the three new members who will be joining us: Hungary,
Poland, the Czech Republic. Then at some point in the future, as we
see other countries able to measure up to the very high requirements
that we insist upon, we will consider other members, according to our
declaration in Madrid. This, of course, could include Romania,
Slovenia. There will be other countries such as Bulgaria and others
who will perhaps want to seek membership. There should be no
exclusion; no country is excluded by geography but there must be a
very substantial commitment and ability on their part to measure up to
NATO responsibilities.

MINISTER SCHARPING: I asked Bill Cohen to answer first because that
gave me the chance to say, "I agree with Mr. Secretary."

Q: I would like to ask both Ministers whether the Transatlantic
armaments cooperation played a role in their discussion, for instance,
the Medium Extended Air Defense System, (MEADS) and how the Americans
have reacted to the appeal on the German side to ease the restrictions
on the transfer of military technology.

MINISTER SCHARPING: Well, in our discussion we have mentioned a point
which possibly counters the impression that might have been raised
here and there, that an increased defense identity would be a
weakening within the cohesion in NATO. And Washington had said already
that it might be helpful, that General Staff officers should be
invited to Germany so that they can study at the Staff College and
visit the units to have many fertile links to Europe, and have a
strengthened knowledge about Europe. I think this was accepted. And
there's another thing which I would like to add. Namely, that we are
looking for a common technology project. And we want to make sure, on
the basis of the development of these technologies, that we have a
firm link within NATO. And MEADS is one of these elements.

SECRETARY COHEN: With respect to the MEADS program, it is currently
being restructured and, we believe, being restructured in a way that
will make it technologically feasible and also affordable. You will
note from my presentation of our budget to the Congress last week,
that where before there was no money included in the budget for MEADS,
I included $150 million to continue the program as restructured. So we
will continue to work with our German and Italian friends to develop a
system of this capability.

With respect to the issue of easing restrictions on technology
transfer, we should make it very clear that within NATO itself we want
to maintain very high standards of protecting our technology. We do
not want to see a reduction in the standards so that the technology
that we devote so much of our resources toward simply is allowed to be
disseminated without serious controls over that. Within that context,
we will work very closely with our NATO allies, and with Germany in
particular, developing programs whereby we can share in the research
and development of programs that will enhance our security. But
Germany as well as the United States and other NATO members should
always be concerned about making sure we have adequate controls over
the export of technology which could compromise our security. But,
within that context, we are going to work very closely with Germany
and others to develop ways in which we can have greater Transatlantic
cooperation.

Q: I would like to ask both Ministers what they have talked about
regarding the scope, strengthened equipment of the peace units to
Kosovo, to what extent the U.S. will be involved, and who will be the
supreme leader of these units.

MINISTER SCHARPING: Well, questions of scope, supreme leadership,
command structure, will be discussed in conjunction with an agreement
coming up and its conclusion. Several states, the United States,
France, Great Britain, Germany, are involved in the preparation for
the military warranty, so to speak, of such an agreement. And also to
be able to react quickly to such an agreement and to buttress it. In
what form, this will be shown during the next two weeks to come.

SECRETARY COHEN: Again, we are in agreement in terms of how we proceed
with respect to our mutual involvement in Kosovo. President Clinton
has made it clear that first there must be an agreement; that none of
us contemplate entering into a non-permissive environment.

Namely, we would be there to keep a peace, not to make a peace. So
there must be an agreement which is real, which is agreed to by all
parties, which is not simply some sort of tactical move or temporizing
on the part of any of them, because we do not want to see a situation
in which NATO forces are committed to the region, but only as an
excuse for one or more of the parties to try to take advantage and
exploit it to achieve something inconsistent with the agreement
itself.

So the agreement must be real. President Clinton has indicated, under
those circumstances, should NATO decide to commit land forces to keep
that peace, that we would participate, but that the majority of the
burden should be borne by the European countries. As Minister
Scharping has just stated, we are in the process now of examining what
size force would be required; how many troops, what their composition
would be, how the military would be deployed and command structures as
well. That is all under discussion at this point.

Q: Mr. Secretary, I'd like to ask you about Iraq. From the past couple
of days it has been pretty quiet; there have been no confrontations
there. Does this suggest to you that Saddam Hussein is backing off his
challenging of the no-fly zones?

SECRETARY COHEN: I think that one who would endeavor to try to
calculate what Saddam Hussein's motivations are at any given moment
would be entering into a fool's paradise. No one should try to
anticipate what he is thinking at the moment. What we have to do is be
prepared for any action that he might take. Our forces are structured
in such a way as to make sure that he remains contained; that he
doesn't move north or move south and violate the no-fly zones, and we
will continue to do that as we seek to work with opposition groups to
bring about a regime change over a period of time.

We are committed to that policy. What he will do tomorrow or the next
day remains a matter of great speculation but in the meantime, we have
to be prepared for any contingency. So I would not try to read any
cessation in terms of his confrontational tactics of the past few
weeks as indicating any one thing. It could be that he has decided
that the destruction of those surface-to-air missiles and radar
systems that he had been deploying causes him to pull back for fear
that he might lose all of them. It might be that he has other
intentions and plans in mind, but I think it would not be helpful to
speculate. We remain prepared and vigilant and always at the ready.

Thank you.

(end transcript)